Monday, April 16, 2012

Combustion Damage

I do my best with keeping all my DOTS up when I cast Combustion, so when I mouse over the debuff it's over 6000k damage every second for 10 seconds. Is this good enough? I know it's not accurate accounting for other stats but still?
I want your combustions if they are doing 6000k per second
i agree, 6k is good. i try really hard and its eather 5.5k or if im lucky enough to get a pyro crit Combustion its 7.2k .

So 6K is indeed very good.
I was like '6k? wow, that's a lot.'

Then I saw your gearz....


I typically get a 5.3-5.6k dps combustion, if I'm doin it right.


:D
I'm usually happy if I get one in the 5.5 - 6.5k range. I get the rare one up over 7k, but occasionally flub and get the 3-4k one too.

It's gotten a lot more consistent since I've stopped casting flame orb when my combustion cd is up. That'll be one less thing to worry about in 4.1.
Single target, I like to see 12k's.

AoE, 7k is fine.
This isn't the right way to view it, but I like to look at it as total damage done in a single button press. Anything under 100k in a raid setting means I either got horrid luck or I did something wrong.
I'm usually happy if I get one in the 5.5 - 6.5k range. I get the rare one up over 7k, but occasionally flub and get the 3-4k one too.

It's gotten a lot more consistent since I've stopped casting flame orb when my combustion cd is up. That'll be one less thing to worry about in 4.1.

No it won't. Flame orb is still a direct damage spell. Cast it after combustion!
I'm usually happy if I get one in the 5.5 - 6.5k range. I get the rare one up over 7k, but occasionally flub and get the 3-4k one too.

It's gotten a lot more consistent since I've stopped casting flame orb when my combustion cd is up. That'll be one less thing to worry about in 4.1.

No it won't. Flame orb is still a direct damage spell. Cast it after combustion!


I think what he means is that he doesn't have flame orb active when he's busy fishing up the crits for combustion.
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This isn't the right way to view it, but I like to look at it as total damage done in a single button press. Anything under 100k in a raid setting means I either got horrid luck or I did something wrong.


i agree i dont hit comb. untill after comb helper hits 10k plus.

meaning doin 10k damage over 10 secs
i got my combustion helper thersehold set for 12k unless im aoeing and need a fast combustion i wait for that 12k before useing combustion.
Single target, I like to see 12k's.

AoE, 7k is fine.


Would you mind me asking how 12k is possible? I usually pop my cooldowns and get a nice 50K+ Fireball with Pyro dot on the target and LB up and I've never had over 9k :(
My threshold is set at 12k... what frustrates me though is getting an 18k ignite munched and it turns into a 4k... LOL
^^^ x10000.
Single target, I like to see 12k's.

AoE, 7k is fine.


Would you mind me asking how 12k is possible? I usually pop my cooldowns and get a nice 50K+ Fireball with Pyro dot on the target and LB up and I've never had over 9k :(


This, How in dear god can you get 12k ticks? It feels like i'm pulling teeth just getting over 6k.
well i guess depends on how you look at it

if you put your mouse over the dot on the mob. and it says 6k + is already decent.
but if you look at the damage numbers showng in ur screen from dots ticking. it will show it ticking at 17,000 + damage

so depending on how your looking at the combustion

the way i check if my combs were nice is to see if the dot ON THE MOB. shows like 7-8k +

it changes alot if u combust with lets say a pyro crit. will be like 4000+ but if you get a fireball + a pyro crit that dosent get munched it wil show 7000+ dot


17,000 is a crit ofc. a crit of the combistion dot. i rarely pay atention to the non crit ticks and if its critting for 17k + in my eyes its a fairly decent combustion
Single target, I like to see 12k's.

AoE, 7k is fine.


Would you mind me asking how 12k is possible? I usually pop my cooldowns and get a nice 50K+ Fireball with Pyro dot on the target and LB up and I've never had over 9k :(


12k+ ticks come from fight gimmicks, fully buffed, potted and trinketed BiS-level mages, or an ignite bank filled with 2 or 3 fireball crits as opposed to just one. For those of us average mages in an average fight, you build up that ignite exactly the same way you did in ICC - by critting several times in a row without it getting munched. So basically, extreme luck. Subsequently, this extreme luck factor is diminished by better gear and 4.1's ignite change.
Like Hyperactive said, if you get regular 6k ticks, you'll get 12k crit ticks.
Single target, I like to see 12k's.

AoE, 7k is fine.


Would you mind me asking how 12k is possible? I usually pop my cooldowns and get a nice 50K+ Fireball with Pyro dot on the target and LB up and I've never had over 9k :(


I have DI all the time, so I'll sometimes see things like 20k ignites on top of a 9k living bomb.

I don't combust off of a single crit, unless its at the end of my trinket+prepots and its going to be the best I can hope for.

Also, as another poster said, a lot of fights have mechanics to boost damage, and you should be using your combustion around these.

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